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Originally Posted by Fifebhoy  A couple of points, what is the style of football strachan is trying to play that frustrates you. |
Style goes to formation our players are not fully productive IMO in a 4-4-2 formation. As we don’t have a natural defensive minded midfielder within that system. We struggle to retain the ball within the midfield through lack of composure and options. No matter who the opposition is they find it easy to bypass our midfield which puts an already shaky backline under added pressure.
WGS wants to play a passing style he has said as much every season. I just don’t see evidence of it improving within his favoured formation. As I said earlier the players we have IMV are more suited to different variations of a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1.
You may feel differently it is just my opinon.
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Originally Posted by Fifebhoy Pass and move, ball on the deck(unless it finds its way to captain mick). From the long ball stuff we used to play under MON and particularly in those last 2 years we played dreadful boring stuff.
The players you have mentioned all played in 4 man midfields, occasionally reverting to 5 man, not 3 as you state(with the exception of crosas).. |
We are in a different era than MONīs years I don’t think one manager has anything to do with another.
As for the players I mentioned Brown, Donati, Gravesen, Jarosik and Riorden have all played a very different role for Celtic than they have done at previous clubs.
Robson was used wide right at Dundee Utd but mostly with 3 midfield players inside him. Hartley is probably the only one who has been used in a 4 man midfield for the majority of his career, however latterly at Hearts he excelled in variations of a 4-5-1.
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Originally Posted by Fifebhoy I cannot argue that a reluctance to drop certain players has been frustrating though that seems to have been blown away at the end of last season. |
Only when Brown was suspended did we see a change in midfield, that suspension was a blessing as if Brown was available we may very well have seen the SPL title at Ipox. I credit WGS though as he kept Brown and Donati on the bench for the whole run in this decision along with the motivation of everyone connected with the Club got us over the line.
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Originally Posted by Fifebhoy From season to season we see no advancment in the quality of player or performance. From day 1 to now simply not true. Look at the player McGeady has become under strachan. Or Boruc, or McManus, granted not bought players but big improvements nonetheless. In terms of bought players, sure there have been some disappointments, mainly Graveson but who in all honesty wasn't pleased with that signing. I think it's more of a mark of strachan how quickly he was dropped from the team, despite the pedigree and wahes. Brown last year, being younger, and the man our midfied will be built around for several years to come, was given chances. Can't grumble. |
I was talking about a collective improvement as a team not just individually. The ins and outs of players (your examples why Grav failed and why Aiden has improved are not clear to me. I am of the opinion that most of our signings under WGS past and present would have been successful if used to their strengths.
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Originally Posted by Fifebhoy In my opinion anybody who does not like strachan does it soley on personality grounds, from this though it makes little sense. MON was revered despite his prickly attitude to the press and media. His little tantrums or refusals to speak. Strachan simply answers stupid questions with the dignity they deserve |
Two very different things IMO to dis-like someone personally or to dis-like someone’s job performance.
In fact the word dis-like is to the correct one for me I am sceptical as to his ability to manage.