Thread: Celtic face SPL investigation into fresh claims of chanting

Originally Posted by bryzo68

Irish rebel songs div, it's how irish people and their descendants remember and celebrate their heritage. The scots have got burns suppers and c u jimmy hats, the english have got morris dancing and smashing up pubs, the irish sing songs about fighting the crown. Some of the songs include the forbidden 3 syllables but you can't censor history. For me working class culture in the west of scotland is traditionally based around booze, bad food, football, religion and politics. These things are all in the mix at Celtic Park, always have been and always will be.

Bry, i love a good rebel song and dont see any problem with them, and all of us with irish roots should be proud to sing, play and listen to them, i dont agree with IRA chanting at Celtic games, i dont thnk it supports the team or the players in any way, always brings bad publicity and gives the authourities a chance to show us in bad light.
Ive been at many a game where 60.000 or at old C.P. 84.000 singing ynwa, the celtic song, we shall not be moved, F.O.A etc. lifted the stadium and drove the team on to victory but i dont remember a chant of ira,ira,ira having a similar response.
These people dont go about their daily life or workplace chanting ira, its only when they turn up at a celtic game it seems to be of importance to them.
Also to respond to the other poster( Seanog? I think it was) my grandfather was born in donegal, so im third generation myself, i fully understand all the history about ireland and celtics connections but it still does not answer why in the year 2011 people want to chant ira when watching celtic, i want the history kept alive and dont care how many irish rebel songs are sung but direct chants of support to the ira are wrong imo.
Cut out the ira chanting and it will be much harder for anyone to find justified fault with any of the other songs we sing.

Originally Posted by divcelt

Bry, i love a good rebel song and dont see any problem with them, and all of us with irish roots should be proud to sing, play and listen to them, i dont agree with IRA chanting at Celtic games, i dont thnk it supports the team or the players in any way, always brings bad publicity and gives the authourities a chance to show us in bad light.
Ive been at many a game where 60.000 or at old C.P. 84.000 singing ynwa, the celtic song, we shall not be moved, F.O.A etc. lifted the stadium and drove the team on to victory but i dont remember a chant of ira,ira,ira having a similar response.
These people dont go about their daily life or workplace chanting ira, its only when they turn up at a celtic game it seems to be of importance to them.
Also to respond to the other poster( Seanog? I think it was) my grandfather was born in donegal, so im third generation myself, i fully understand all the history about ireland and celtics connections but it still does not answer why in the year 2011 people want to chant ira when watching celtic, i want the history kept alive and dont care how many irish rebel songs are sung but direct chants of support to the ira are wrong imo.
Cut out the ira chanting and it will be much harder for anyone to find justified fault with any of the other songs we sing.

I agree with you for the most part but i do think there is an orchestrated campaign by Rangers/loyalist tradition type people in Scotland trying to highlight this in retaliation for the bad publicity they have recieved the last while about singing sectarian songs

Originally Posted by seanog

I agree with you for the most part but i do think there is an orchestrated campaign by Rangers/loyalist tradition type people in Scotland trying to highlight this in retaliation for the bad publicity they have recieved the last while about singing sectarian songs

And thats how easy it is to distance ourselves still further from them, we simply stop the up the ra and ira chants, there is nothing offensive to any fair minded person in anything else we sing or chant.

The thin end of the wedge is well and truly in now div. There's forces in this country who won't be happy till celtic have adopted the thistle as a badge - just like hibs had to do in the 70s - to distance themselves from their shameful origins.
Say what you like about IRA chants - and i agree with you on them - but once the club starts siding with anti-irish politicians against season ticket holders who have had Celtic in their family since they got off the boat then it's time to say fuck 'em.
I'm agreeing with michael kelly ffs. Who knew?

Originally Posted by bryzo68

Say what you like about IRA chants - and i agree with
I'm agreeing with michael kelly ffs. Who knew?

Agreeing with me and michael kelly in one post!!!!!! See, people can change, what seems impossible one day is just common sense the next day :-)