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    Quote Originally Posted by Giv1888 View Post
    how is Josh Thompson doing by the way?

    I'de probably rather him int he back line instead of heid and hoof
    For a big brutal, ugly looking cnut he's apparently a big gayer, according to people who watched the last friendly anyway. He is most certainly, not the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco67 View Post
    It's your round!

    Mowbray is the last person I blame. He's come to do a job but is ultimately still working with an unchanged team from last year. Next year we will see what's to come. If Mowbray clears out and brings in players (which he has massively hinted at), and the board back him then we might have something worth watching.

    Like Strachan before him, Mowbray is left having a lot to do. Strachan had an ageing squad and the wage sheet to bring down. Mowbray's just been left with a pishy team.

    I still think we'll win the league. It wont be pretty though.
    The last person yeah??????? Please tell who the first is mate?? If not the manager then who???

    All the shite about 'playing the game the Celtic way' when?? 1 up front is the Celtic way since when?

    I described TM in a previous post as as guy who got FM2009 as a birthday present and has been messing about with his fav team, this hasn't changed any! HE IS THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME, no-one else!!!!!!!!! My whole Celtic life I have called for managers to be given time from Macari to Venglos to Barnes (just) but this time I've had enough. If your only tactic when not winning is to bring on as many forwards as possible regardless of current state of play then I think I now know why WBA got relegated!!!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seoul Bhoy View Post
    The last person yeah??????? Please tell who the first is mate?? If not the manager then who???

    All the shite about 'playing the game the Celtic way' when?? 1 up front is the Celtic way since when?

    I described TM in a previous post as as guy who got FM2009 as a birthday present and has been messing about with his fav team, this hasn't changed any! HE IS THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME, no-one else!!!!!!!!! My whole Celtic life I have called for managers to be given time from Macari to Venglos to Barnes (just) but this time I've had enough. If your only tactic when not winning is to bring on as many forwards as possible regardless of current state of play then I think I now know why WBA got relegated!!!
    Right wait a minute if you have called for those ****s to get more time then THIS manager deserves the same from you.

    This was always going to be an ugly tansitional season. We are a point behind Rangers and still capable of winning the league. Europe has to take a back seat for now while we get our house in order i'm afraid.
     

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    Well, in fairness to Mowbray at West Brom, he tried to play good football but got picked off against teams like Arsenal. Trying to play the game was his downfall there. Up here there's not as much chance of that happening.

    Mate, in Tony Mowbrays eyes, a 4-5-1 is also a 4-3-3 in attack. So playing a 4-5-1 is a crap criticism in my eyes. He's come in and tried to play better football with Strachan's team. My criticism will come next year (or after January if the board back him) when he's brung some players in and he still can't get results and have the team playing well.

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    Right wait a minute if you have called for those cnuts to get more time then THIS manager deserves the same from you.

    This was always going to be an ugly tansitional season. We are a point behind Rangers and still capable of winning the league. Europe has to take a back seat for now while we get our house in order i'm afraid.
    Correct. It's all a bit childish and hypocritical. I gave every manager time, but Mowbray doesn't deserve it. On what basis? Plenty managers start of badly because they are trying to install their own tactics, training and general way about the club. Settle down and give this manager what you gave the others.
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    [QUOTE=Rosco67;94325]Well, in fairness to Mowbray at West Brom, he tried to play good football but got picked off against teams like Arsenal. Trying to play the game was his downfall there. Up here there's not as much chance of that happening.

    Mate, in Tony Mowbrays eyes, a 4-5-1 is also a 4-3-3 in attack. So playing a 4-5-1 is a crap criticism in my eyes. He's come in and tried to play better football with Strachan's team. My criticism will come next year (or after January if the board back him) when he's brung some players in and he still can't get results and have the team playing well.



    Correct. It's all a bit childish and hypocritical. I gave every manager time, but Mowbray doesn't deserve it. On what basis? Plenty managers start of badly because they are trying to install their own tactics, training and general way about the club. Settle down and give this manager what you gave the others.[/QUOTE

    The difference with this manager and others guys is that he cannot make a substitution that changes the game in our favour!!! One game, one game!!! against Hearts has he managed to make the team go out and win a game in the 2nd half! I want to give him time but there hasn't been any evidence so far that he is worth giving time to! We lose goals in the first 10mins and we do nothing in the 2nd half I'm sorry but those are the times that a manager has the most influence over a team. How many games do the Huns win in the 2nd half????
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeman View Post



    After another toothless performance tonight where Celtic huffed and puffed against an under strength Hamburg side i think its fair to say that apathy really has taken hold of the support.

    The blame game is well under way, fingers are pointing in various directions.

    The one person who i don't blame is Mowbray. This was the same side (Nguemo aside) that rolled over and died in the league last term.

    The same lack of invention, the same toe curling ineptitude, average in every area of the team.

    Mowbray can promise attractive football all he likes but it cant happen without players who can pass and control a ball, who can create space and who can finish. And dont get me started on the defence.

    For me the blame lies in 3 places.

    1. Strachan for wasting what little money we had on duds
    2. The board (predictably)

    but the killer is:

    3. The sheep within the Celtic support - for putting up with the current state of play for so long.

    I for one have had enough. I won't spend another penny inside Celtic park until i see something on the pitch worth shelling out for. I can take losing - but i wont stand for being bored to death while my feet turn to blocks of ice.

    Empty stands are the only answer. You can try your online petitions and phone up Radio Snide all you like but you're wasting your time.

    See you in the pub.

    Fair enough points, I would agree with you for once Wee Man!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB View Post
    Agreed.

    Would like to reserve a bit of praise for Samaras when he came on last night. Showed desire and fight to win the ball and be positive.
    done better than mcdonald...but only does it when comin on as sub...is it an attitude problem with him or is he just a lazy big shit who will give you a good 20mins but hide over 90
    I'm livin in a nightmare..shes lookin like a wet dream.."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanders View Post
    4 - 3 - 3 with celtic doesnt work. we dont have the players
    We dont have the players for ANY formation.

    Mowbray was hired and told to produce attacking football - he's caught in a bind because the players there are incapable of providing that.

    The system and formation are irrelevant.

    Substitutions are irrelevant also - as we dont have a single player who can turn a game.
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    The PLC is primarily to blame. Repetitive failure to strengthen from a position of strength is nothing but incompetence on their part. Continually hailed for the results of our balance sheets, these masters of the financial world who regard the term "Speculate To Accumulate" as the language of financial dim-wits. Instead, they ASSUME that the correct policy is to monitor The Huns and attempt to stay one step, and one step only ahead of them. Well, as the saying goes, ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME. Their policy is now bearing fruit - a woeful "product" on the park, alarmingly dwindling attendances and a general depression descending over Paradise. But, hey, we`re virtually debt free so everything`s o.k. NEWSFLASH - No it aint! We`re onto you and your dereliction of duty must be rectified post haste. We are now struggling in a league that is, quite frankly, garbage. Your "Yes Man" has departed, soon to be relocated at The Riverside.The writing was on the wall from the early weeks of his tenure. He was charged with the responsibilty of dismantling the remnants of a great team and proceeded to do so with gusto. 3 titles in a row pacified the masses but the more clued up amongst us knew this was a car wreck in waiting. Having unbelievably tossed away title No. 4, Strachan departed to the general relief of The Faithful who were underwhelmed despite the 3 in a row and 2 last sixteens. He had built truly built an SPL team - and that was his crime IMO, sharing responsibilty with The PLC who charged him with the task.I truly savoured our great CL nights as i knew they would soon come to an end and advised fellow Tims to do likewise and advised them that we would arrive at the point we have now arrived at. It`s not rocket science. You get what you pay for. The turmoil The Huns have been in merely provided the smokescreen for the downsizing of our great club. Mowbray now has to pick up the pieces. The jury is out on Mogga and he`ll be judged at the end of the season but i can`t help feeling sympathy for him for what he has inherited. His signings have been preety decent IMO but building a team can`t happen overnight, it must evolve over a few windows - will he even have the finance to do so? That said, i think it is a reasonable expectation to expect the League Flag to be fluttering over Paradise again next season even though we are poor because i believe The Huns are poorer. However, our players are now being asked to play football and they seem to be struggling with the concept.
     

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    Personally i blame BB , he's a ****

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